On the timeline · a founder exchange

The app layer is getting removed.

Better product, less revenue, and a customer who just cloned the app. Three founders, one exchange on X, worth watching in the order it happened.

eChai · Founder network · 22 July 2026

He made the product 10x better; revenue went down a third. The business chain — You, the app, the AI model — collapses to just You and the AI model.

In July 2026 three founders talked past each other in public, and in doing so drew the clearest picture yet of what AI is doing to software businesses. Here it is, post by post, in the order it landed.

Post 1 · Matt Welter

It opened with a number that isn’t supposed to happen.

Matt Welter (@_mattwelter) builds ReelFarm, a tool that grows apps by auto-posting slideshow videos. A year ago it made him $48,000 in a month. The product is far better now. The revenue isn’t.

Matt Welter on X: a year ago he made $48,000 in a single month; now with the product 10x more developed and better he's at $30k a month; how does he get back to $48k months. Below, the ReelFarm dashboard showing 415.9K views, 30.0K likes, 238 posts.
𝕏Matt Welter · @_mattwelter →
Post 2 · Pedro Machado

Then one of his own customers answered the question.

Pedro Machado (@pedrotech_) had loved ReelFarm, it took his app from zero to $5k. And then he said the quiet part out loud.

Pedro Machado on X: he purchased ReelFarm for 2 months and it was amazing, taking his app from 0 to 5k by posting slideshows; eventually he built a version of it himself so he didn't have to pay; he still thinks ReelFarm is better than the version he made, and suggests it niche down on slideshows.
𝕏Pedro Machado · @pedrotech_ →
Post 3 · Pieter Levels

Pieter Levels quote-tweeted the whole thing and named the pattern.

Levels (@levelsio) runs a portfolio of AI apps doing millions a year. His read: the product did get 10× better, but so did every competitor’s, at the same moment, with the same AI. Read it in full below, it’s the heart of the whole thing.

Live on X

His argument compresses into one picture: when a customer can clone the app and pay only for the raw AI tokens underneath, the middle of the business chain falls out.

customer app AI model provider before
customer→→→ AI model provider after

“The app layer is possibly getting removed!”

Post 4 · Pieter Levels, again

Then he pushed it one step further.

The replies

Neither founder at the center let the doomsday read stand.

Matt drew a boundary around it, the app layer dissolves for undifferentiated B2B, not for consumer products people would never rebuild:

Matt Welter's reply: revenue is also low because he hasn't been marketing as much; he only thinks the app layer is getting removed in B2B; the masses won't vibecode their own spotify, figma, duolingo, balatro or notes app; the app layer gets removed for B2B apps without a moat.
𝕏Matt Welter · @_mattwelter →

And Pedro, the cloner, added the most honest footnote of all, that copying it was possible but not actually smart:

Pedro Machado's reply: he was able to clone the core functionality of ReelFarm using Claude very easily, but it was still not as good as ReelFarm; the best business move would have been to keep paying because it was profitable from the very start and is a way better service.
𝕏Pedro Machado · @pedrotech_ →

The eChai read

If AI hands every competitor the same 10× and every customer a plausible clone button, the feature stops being the moat.

What’s left is the part Pedro proved by accident: he could rebuild ReelFarm, but its craft and niche made paying the smarter move. Distribution, taste, and a niche you own that well, that’s the moat now.

The posts · read them on X

Pieter Levels’ posts are embedded live from X. Matt’s and Pedro’s posts are shown as captures of the originals. Every word is theirs, reproduced unedited.