Podcast · ~90 min

Code vs No-Code with Ben Tossell and Sahil Lavingia

Courtland Allen · Indie Hackers Podcast (#134) Free Intermediate

A direct debate between a no-code evangelist (Makerpad's Ben Tossell) and a founder who built and rebuilt in code (Gumroad's Sahil Lavingia). You get both sides honestly: where no-code genuinely replaces a developer and where it does not. Useful for hearing the tradeoff argued rather than sold to you.

  • No-code has closed much of the gap for standard apps and internal tools.
  • Some products still need real code once scale or custom logic arrives.
  • The right choice depends on what you are building, not on ideology.
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The question it answers

  1. Is no-code cheaper than hiring a developer?

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