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Cooking with OpenAI’s Research Chief: AGI, o1, Evals, and Scaling Laws — Mark Chen

Latent Space · Swyx & Alessio

26 June 2026 · AI & Tech

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In this episode, we have Mark Chen, Chief Research Officer at OpenAI, joining us to make Korean tofu stew and flambé shrimp. From scaling laws and why pre-training is not dead, to the o1 reasoning bet, evals crisis, research taste, long-context learning, and the future of end-to-end AI research, we

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