Podcast
How to Calculate CAC, LTV, Retention and Churn (Startups Unplugged with Paul Orlando)
Omer Khan (host), Paul Orlando (guest) · The SaaS Podcast (SaaS Club) Free Beginner
A founder-voice conversation, not a metrics lecture, on why a pretty LTV:CAC ratio can still sink you if the cash takes years to come back. Paul Orlando (author of Growth Units) makes the case for modeling LTV as a stream of cash flows so you can see the real payback moment, and for breaking CAC out by channel instead of trusting one blended number. It is a good starting point for hearing how experienced founders reason about payback before they obsess over the ratio.
- A strong ratio is worthless if payback takes years, because you can go out of business waiting to recoup the spend.
- Treat the 1:3 CAC to LTV figure as a starting benchmark, not a rule, and break CAC down by channel since channels scale differently.
- Model LTV as cash flows over time, not a single static number, so you can see when acquisition cost is actually recovered.