Podcast

Google CEO Sundar Pichai on the next phase of AI (Decoder)

Nilay Patel, The Verge · podcasts.apple.com

The 2025 conversation where the AI-search era for the web is laid out.

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The question it answers

  1. Google clicks are collapsing because of AI answers. What does that mean for my startup's traffic and distribution?

Read with it

  1. The definitive zero-click dataset from the person who coined the term. sparktoro.com Article In 2026, Less than One Third of Google Searches Still Send a Click Rand Fishkin, SparkToro
  2. The constructive half: the channels that still compound when search clicks die. sparktoro.com Article When Google Stops Sending Clicks, What Still Works? Rand Fishkin, SparkToro
  3. A concise industry summary of the SparkToro/Datos numbers. searchengineland.com Article Google zero-click searches reach 68% in early 2026: Study Search Engine Land
  4. The earlier 2025 data point so you can see the acceleration. searchengineland.com Article Zero-click searches rise, organic clicks dip: Report Search Engine Land
  5. The clearest mainstream account of what AI Overviews did to content businesses. npr.org Article Online news publishers face 'extinction-level event' from Google's AI-powered search NPR
  6. Where the disruption stands now, including AI Mode's rollout. forbes.com Article Google Search AI Overhaul Leaves Publishers Bracing For 'Google Zero' Forbes
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